{"id":1547,"date":"2008-03-19T19:02:48","date_gmt":"2008-03-19T19:02:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/2008\/03\/19\/five-years-in-i\/"},"modified":"2008-03-19T19:02:48","modified_gmt":"2008-03-19T19:02:48","slug":"five-years-in-i","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/2008\/03\/19\/five-years-in-i\/","title":{"rendered":"FIVE YEARS IN IRAQ &#8211; A BIRTHDAY &#8211; AND MEMORIES OF VIETNAM"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/photos\/uncategorized\/2008\/03\/19\/iraq_anti_war_march.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"159\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/dontgeltoosoon\/images\/2008\/03\/19\/iraq_anti_war_march.jpg?resize=150%2C159\" title=\"Iraq_anti_war_march\" alt=\"Iraq_anti_war_march\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left;\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe amazing Queen of Spain, <a href=\"http:\/\/queenofspainblog.com\/2008\/03\/18\/5-years-too-many\/#comment-59633\">Erin Kotckei Vest<\/a>, wrote yesterday about her son&#8217;s 5th birthday and the war in Iraq, realizing that our country has been at war for <em>his entire life. <\/em> It&#8217;s a moving and troubling meditation on the length and malignancy of this war.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/queenofspainblog.com\/2008\/03\/18\/5-years-too-many\/#comment-59633\">Take a look<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It was strange to read&nbsp; &#8212; someplace between echo and deja vu.&nbsp; My older son was born the night Cambodia fell; I went back to work at CBS News the night <a href=\"http:\/\/dontgelyet.typepad.com\/dontgeltoosoon\/2006\/11\/fini_bi_bi.html\">Saigon fell<\/a> (foreign desk &#8211; overnight) and his younger brother was born 2 days after the Iran hostages were taken.&nbsp; We always knew how many days old he was because Walter Cronkite ended every newscast with &quot;that&#8217;s the way it is, the xyz day American hostages have been held in Iran.&quot;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>I remember nursing Josh during the horrible last days of the Vietnam war, when they were trying to get orphans out of the country.&nbsp; One evening at the very beginning of the effort, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.historynet.com\/air_sea\/airborne_operations\/3908376.html?featured=y&amp;c=y\">78 kids died<\/a> when their plane crashed.&nbsp; To this day I remember sitting in a chair, feeding this weeks-old child, watching the broken bodies of some else&#8217;s children flung around the crash site, and just dissolving.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/photos\/uncategorized\/2008\/03\/19\/vietnam_march.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"113\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/dontgeltoosoon\/images\/2008\/03\/19\/vietnam_march.jpg?resize=150%2C113\" title=\"Vietnam_march\" alt=\"Vietnam_march\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left;\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nI don&#8217;t know if it helps or hurts that this is not the first time; although in so many ways it is the worst.&nbsp; As horrible as the country was during Vietnam, we had our collective rage.&nbsp; As this picture shows, we also had the innocence that placed carnations<br \/>\nin the barrels of National Guard guns as they kept us at bay.&nbsp; And we had each other; the opposition to the war, while fractious and divided, essentially understood its unity and its shared issues. Because we&#8217;d had teach-ins and gone home and argued with our parents and had to face down counter-demonstrators at marches we had become somewhat tribal &#8211; which was bad in some ways but held us together.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>The current administration, in my mind, has made it so much more painful to try to bring change; the worst part being that t<em>hey should have learned enough from Vietnam not to do it this way!!<\/em>!&nbsp; Not original but as I read Erin&#8217;s heartfelt post, about her son and about all those in her family serving or having served in Iraq I got angry all over again.&nbsp; Last time it was arrogance on the part of people like <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Robert_McNamara\">Robert McNamara<\/a>, but they did not have a Vietnam to look back on and strive to avoid.&nbsp; They had the model of World War II, the post-war failures that led to the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe for so long, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.loc.gov\/exhibits\/marshall\/\">Marshall Plan<\/a> and all the other &quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.studsterkel.org\/gwar.php\">good wars&quot; <\/a>and American generosity that informed the very bad decisions they made.&nbsp; These guys today have had all Vietnam to instruct them and still did this to us.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s why this election is so important.&nbsp; If we had had decent leadership five years ago we might be funding decent learning disabilities programs and well-baby clinics and alternative energy research and, if necessary, wars we DO need to fight instead of burdened by a debt that could very well still be with us when Erin&#8217;s birthday boy is in college.&nbsp; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The amazing Queen of Spain, Erin Kotckei Vest, wrote yesterday about her son&#8217;s 5th birthday and the war in Iraq, realizing that our country has been at war for his entire life. It&#8217;s a moving and troubling meditation on the length and malignancy of this war.&nbsp; Take a look. It was strange to read&nbsp; &#8212; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/2008\/03\/19\/five-years-in-i\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">FIVE YEARS IN IRAQ &#8211; A BIRTHDAY &#8211; AND MEMORIES OF VIETNAM<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[2,4,27,7,9,97],"tags":[384,1643,1342,1646,1647,1645,1644,359],"class_list":["post-1547","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-2","category-baby-boom","category-current-affairs","category-life","category-politics","category-television","tag-anti-war","tag-fifth-anniversary","tag-iraq","tag-leadership","tag-learn-from-vietnam","tag-marshall-plan","tag-robert-mcnamara","tag-vietnam"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4gBq8-oX","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1547","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1547"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1547\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1547"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1547"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cynthiasamuels.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1547"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}